The 2020 version of the NAF Tournament Rules describes how the NAF has incorporated GW’s BB2016 rules released to date (1 Nov. 2019).
The 2020 version of the NAF Tournament Rules describes how the NAF has incorporated GW’s BB2016 rules released to date (1 Nov. 2019).
Hi all
Could you clarify whether Grak and Crumbleberry and the new goblin with wings are mandatory after July?
Thanks
Paddy
They are not.
By ‘Goblin with wings’, I assume Paddy means the Doom Diver. That guy _will_ be mandatory. G&C not. Right? It’s the black Goblin that won’t be. I think.
Correct. Sorry, don’t know how I missed the goblin with wings bit. Paddy, did you edit your post?
Hi Mike, all,
Thanks for the update, and for the continued attempt to steer us through tricky times.
I wanted to ask: what is the endgame here? Eventually, do we intend to just be playing BB2016 (as a full release, box + n DZs) plus Slann (and cards as properly costed inducements, rather than pre-game sequence items, if they’re allowed by a TO at all)?
For good reasons, it’s very confusing for a new coach right now. We use a skill from the past, we’re using these old, extra stars while the release cycle continues, you can use BB2016 Misc. Mayhem, CRP Misc. Mayhem, no Misc. Mayhem at all, you can have these three stars only seen in one GW tournament rulespacj but not these ones only purchasable from one GW shop… I think a coach needs to be aware of _six documents_ at the moment, and even after that they probably can’t guess what a TO forgets to put in a rulespack they’ve been using for years (they’re rarely exhaustive – I doubt too many have inserted a line about Grak and Crumbleberry for their upcoming event, for instance). It must be a nightmare to navigate.
Much of that isn’t the fault of the NAF. But I think ‘here is where we’re eventually going to end up, our bridging plan is flexible and here it is’ would be a useful communication. Especially if we as coaches are becoming attached to elements of the bridging plan. For instance, if I am using Frank N’ Stein every tournament and he never makes a DZ book, I’m probably going to be upset if one day the NAF says ‘that’s it: we are now BB2016’ with little warning. Equally, if I am a new coach in 2020 and
these NAF dinosaurs are still using elements of a long since unofficial ruleset to keep a minority happy, I’m probably going to be annoyed or put off.
Cheers!
Good thoughts, thank Phil. Will repost to NAF committee for consideration.
Apologies for the typo and formatting – WordPress, Y U no edit function?! 🙂
The Bugman’s Star Players are not listed on this document when they were on the NAFRulesFeb17.pdf. Are they now not allowed or just left out by mistake?
Not mandatory or recommended, would need to be specifically chosen by a TO. Have updated the wording in the post.
Hi Mike,
Just following on from Phils post.
Instead of having the 2 update documents, can we have one living document? With an index of changes, rather multiple documents.
For example the Feb update has the Bugman Stars in, August doesn’t.
Also little things could do with a bit of clarity,
For example “The BB2016 decks are of different strengths, so the TO will need to decide appropriate costs
for each deck that is being used.” is in Aug, while Feb is ” BB2016 Special Play cards or neither. It is noted that the BB2016 Special Play cards are essentially a 200k deck and a 50k deck and should be costed as such, if included at all” So maybe guide on what is recommended costing for each deck.
Also does BB2016 decks refer to jut the BB2016 box set or the two packs which are available to purchase?
Morg in BB2016 he will play for anyone, in CRP anyone that cant hire Ramtut. which rule set is in force?
Special pitches and weather tables – what is the position?
“Games Workshop have released stand-alone miniatures that are not part of the sequence of rules books” – It may help to provide an index of these players so TOs can make an informed choice.
I know how much of a pain it is currently, i am currently trying to keep an up-to date list of all the rules for the GBBL, and the special stars, event only cards, pitches/weather tables , rules from WD, it goes on and on. You should see my flow chart for pre-match is you used all the optional rules 🙂
thanks
Stan
The update is the living document, but perhaps this should be made clearer. This supercedes the previous document.
On your points:
– there are now more decks than it is reasonable to provide a cost for, and so TOs will have to decide this themselves
– the Bugman’s stars have been removed
– we should probably have referenced pitches, refs and weather tables, and will review this at the next meeting. TO optional.
– it’s a good question about Morg, well spotted. I would hope that when Undead are released that Morg’s rules will be updated that he can’t play for them, but until then you’re right, we’ll review that.
Hi Mike,
Just thought I’d ask some clarifying questions regarding stars. In Death Zone Season Two in particular, there are a couple of stars that seem nearly identical to older stars. For example, Karla Von Kill/Zara the Slayer or Glart Smashrip/Glart Smash-up Jr or Fezglitch/Kreek Rustgouger. Can you confirm that these stars are unique and can thus both be taken in a tournament setting? Has there been discussion about removing the “old” stars and only allowing the BB16 versions?
Thanks!
Correct, they are separate players, and both can be taken. Sounds fun!